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  • #6188

    007
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    Rumour has it that the Executor is in the process of finalising arrangements for the disposal of the remaining books from the library.Anybody know anything definite about their fate?

    #8667

    billy budd
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    Nothing definite, but I've heard that Sotheby's will be handling the sale of the remaining books.

    #8668

    marlowe
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    What will happen to St. Saviours and the studio library?

    #8669

    007
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    Nothing definite, but I've heard that Sotheby's will be handling the sale of the remaining books.

    Personally, I can't quite see Sothebys wanting to handle the sale of 15,000-20,000 (?) books, the vast majority of which would be regarded as very 'ordinary'.After all, didn't they turn down the chance of handling the last auction of paintings and effects because they couldn't choose what went into the sale (and only wanted the 'good stuff')?

    #8670

    billy budd
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    Nothing definite, but I've heard that Sotheby's will be handling the sale of the remaining books.

    Personally, I can't quite see Sothebys wanting to handle the sale of 15,000-20,000 (?) books, the vast majority of which would be regarded as very 'ordinary'.After all, didn't they turn down the chance of handling the last auction of paintings and effects because they couldn't choose what went into the sale (and only wanted the 'good stuff')?

    Perhaps it'll be run by the car boot sale division of said auction house. 🙂

    #8671

    marlowe
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    Nothing definite, but I've heard that Sotheby's will be handling the sale of the remaining books.

    I've heard that now too.

    #8672

    billy budd
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    Further to the earlier rumours, I hear that Sotheby's will be having their pick of what's left before the remaining books are being sold by an Edinburgh auction house in May.With the gutted remains of the library gone, all Peter Walmesley has to do is flog off the remaining 150 good paintings and that's it, job done. Perhaps the Estate will be finally wound up by the end of this year.

    #8673

    art3366
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    Who will sell off the remaining paintings? halcyon……not likely……sothebys………2/1 Beranes 4/1??Or maybe a new entrant, how about christies they are a nice lot? Or perhaps dreweatt neate not likely as was it a person there who said he had no confidence in lenliewicz making any price gains either short or long term?Did robert appoint his executor as his last joke? How about we have a sweepstake? the final value of the estate once it is wound up.......maybe the year......2007 to 2015? followed by the final amount - £300000 to + £15000 as the second accumulator?And before I get any comments in reply, like: "you insensitive sod we loved him and our lives are not so good (shit) now he has gone:I half apologise in advance.my sweepstake entry. 2009 plus £31000 final amount.And then the executor writes a book..... "my life with robert lenkiewicz and his estate with photographs by benny hill.

    #8674

    marlowe
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    Who will sell off the remaining paintings?

    I hear there may be some paintings for sale along with the books.

    #8675

    old friend
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    Can any of our illustrious members please keep me informed of the dates and topics and there various locations,of the forthcoming book auctions as I wish to make some purchases.I have an early (1968) portrait of myself done by Robert, which when my computer skills will allow I will attempt to add to the gallery.Has anyone any knowledge of the early “private” collections,and collectors that Robert supplied with selected painting in the 60`s/70`s and of the contents of those collections?

    #8676

    Flo
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    Could anyone shed any light on exactly WHY Robert's books are being transported to the other end of the country for sale at Edinburgh's Lyon & Turnbull when we have two autioneer's in the same county perfectly capable of handling the sale?In actual fact

    #8677

    billy budd
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    The most likely answer is that Lyon and Turnbull offered the best deal to the executor when it came to negotiating charges for holding the auction. As Art3366's fatuous post above demonstrates, most Lenkiewicz fans have little sense of or interest in books and I should imagine very few of them will be even remotely interested in the sale of the library.I found the Herald report interesting in that it implied that not all of the library is going to be sold off. If the best of what's left is going to be auctioned, after the cream was disposed of over 3 years ago, that means all TLF will be left with are the crappy paperbacks and dog-eared dregs of the collection.

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    marlowe
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    #8679

    sartre
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    The most likely answer is that Lyon and Turnbull offered the best deal to the executor when it came to negotiating charges for holding the auction.

    That doesn't make sense. The executor would have to take a view on who could realise the greatest sum for the estate, not who offers the lowest commission.

    As Art3366's fatuous post above demonstrates, most Lenkiewicz fans have little sense of or interest in books and I should imagine very few of them will be even remotely interested in the sale of the library.I found the Herald report interesting in that it implied that not all of the library is going to be sold off. If the best of what's left is going to be auctioned, after the cream was disposed of over 3 years ago, that means all TLF will be left with are the crappy paperbacks and dog-eared dregs of the collection.

    Robert Lenkiewicz wanted to create a centre for the study of human behaviour. In my opinion it doesn't matter if a student reads a modern printing of Plato or a medieval, vellum-bound, edition. In fact the modern edition probably is more readable and has more in the way of notes. So this fetishising of ROL's book collection has very little to do with his stated aims. Admittedly some of his books do not exist in conveniently available editions. Can't they be photocopied before being sold?Sorry if I sound like a Philistine but the purpose of ROL's library is to impart knowledge. They weren't written by Lenkiewicz, he merely owned them and, more importantly, learned from them.

    #8680

    billy budd
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    That doesn't make sense. The executor would have to take a view on who could realise the greatest sum for the estate, not who offers the lowest commission.

    Selling books doesn't work on the same principle as selling paintings and it really doesn't make much difference who a former owner may have been unless it's someone particularly famous (especially in this case as Robert didn't mark his books with ownership marks). A book is generally worth a given amount to buyers and no auction house is likely to be better than another at raising greater sums. Take as an example the six volumes of the Letters of Marcilio Ficino. Those books are worth about £20 each new and can be bought cheaper on the second hand market. The majority of books remaining in the library are of twentieth century date and in total are probably worth no more than £200,000.

    In my opinion it doesn't matter if a student reads a modern printing of Plato or a medieval, vellum-bound, edition. In fact the modern edition probably is more readable and has more in the way of notes. So this fetishising of ROL's book collection has very little to do with his stated aims.

    Robert could be quite indiscriminate with his book buying - he would buy everything on a subject if he could, no matter how feeble or fifth-rate the volume: the important thing for him was having the whole spectrum of opinion on a given subject. The downside of this that the library had its share of tat, which I expect will have been avoided like the plague by the auction houses - it's the tat that will be left to TLF.

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