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  • #10605

    Annie HillSmith
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    Right …. I haven't been in front of a computer for a few days … so, just been catching up on this thread.I just thought I'd provide a bit of history, for what it's worth. It may be irrelevant and/or uninteresting but it was very much because of Robert that Object 2 went in.

    #10606

    WEB WEAVER
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    My father once helped raise money for an electric wheelchair for Chris.

    '...Robert's strong commitment to 'providing relief to the poor, infirm & aged'....'The Objects are permissive, not compulsory...'

    In the spirit of ROL:Could there perhaps be a secondary objective aimed at providing charitable relief to the poor, infirm & aged in the local community? Occasionally, to a deserving person, when circumstances and funds allow? There might be ways of raising money specifically for this, such as sponsorship, or the sale or auction of donated items? It would be a bit like a task on The Apprentice. 🙂

    #10607

    TLF
    Participant

    Specifically on object 2:

    I just thought I'd provide a bit of history, for what it's worth. It may be irrelevant and/or uninteresting but it was very much because of Robert that Object 2 went in...Anyway, in my opinion, the insertion of this Object had NOTHING to do with getting status.

    #10608

    TheWolfman
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    The question is: how fundamental and realistic is it for TLF now to include it as one of its main reasons for existing? What in other words is the point of TLF on its limited means repeating work done better by other specialist charities?

    If nothing else it would help raise the profile of an organisation that has been around for many years now but is barely really known. I understand that the shackles are now off following the winding up of Robert's estate but surely some slightly more out of the box thinking and public spirited behaviour on TLF's part couldn't hurt and might well prove a real boon, especially given Robert's own love of japes and local life.Also, why limit the meal to just Christmas - why not look into getting some local food companies/restaurants involved and create a regular food resource in Robert's name? After the initial setting up and organising TLF's input into such events would certainly become minimal but the continued word of mouth could be excellent. Perhaps said resource could provide for the homeless and maybe even low income families. Anyway, it's likely not in the remit as it stands so the point seems moot. There are of course other avenues if the paintings are to be put on a back burner but it would certainly be intriguing to see the Lenkiewicz spirit in more of West Country life and in my eyes it might well show those that remain blinkered to such endeavours during his lifetime what a rounded and gracious man Robert could be.

    #10609

    gbl
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    I think a Christmas dinner would be a good idea - but I'd be careful about going beyond that, ie; going down the whole 'philanthropic' route. One reason is that it could drain TLF's resources that could otherwise be used promoting the man himself - the whole purpose of TLF!I'm not against charities that give to the needy by any stretch, but there are already many charities - all catering for every type of beneficiary - no need to list them.In Robert's own lifetime, he was only able to help poor individuals because of profits from 'art', if it wasn't for the 'art', no philanthropy would have taken place in the first place. So I think TLF should prioritise in a similar way to Robert's life, ie; perhaps in this order: 1) the art, 2) literature & education 3) philantropic activities.

    #10610

    TLF
    Participant

    One reason is that it could drain TLF's resources that could otherwise be used promoting the man himself - the whole purpose of TLF!

    That, gbl, sums it up. Is it? It's not as it stands. And, if so, what part of the man?

    #10611

    WEB WEAVER
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    In general there are usually a variety of activities that can be undertaken that will relate to specific key aims or objectives. The Library, education and philanthropy were aspects of ROL, as well as his art. So these type of activities could provide alternative ways of meeting aims.

    #10612

    TheWolfman
    Participant

    TLF of course has to prioritise to concentrate it's resources on the primary purpose of promoting the art and ideas of ROL.

    #10613

    marlowe
    Participant

    My father once helped raise money for an electric wheelchair for Chris.

    '...Robert's strong commitment to 'providing relief to the poor, infirm & aged'.

    Could there perhaps be a secondary objective aimed at providing charitable relief to the poor, infirm & aged in the local community?

    Why not look for new premises next door to the DHSS? 😉

    #10614

    TheWolfman
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    Why not look for new premises next door to the DHSS? 😉

    A busy high street location, why not?

    #10615

    TLF
    Participant

    Before the thread comes to a close this weekend, I'd like to put forward the following for debate: that the main objective of TLF should be something along the lines of 'to encourage sociological and philosophical enquiry through the life, work and ideas of Robert Lenkiewicz'.I would add that this form of wording has not yet been put before the TLF trustees but comes from where the discussion started and then listening to some of the views expressed here. I would also like to encourage more members of the site to express their views.

    #10616

    WEB WEAVER
    Participant

    Why not look for new premises next door to the DHSS? 😉

    The DWP, as they are now known these days, are currently located in a posh new building in Exeter Street. It would be difficult to be located next door to them because they are situated on a corner by a junction, and there is a hotel on the other side.

    #10617

    TheWolfman
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    I'd like to put forward the following for debate: that the main objective of TLF should be something along the lines of 'to encourage sociological and philosophical enquiry through the life, work and ideas of Robert Lenkiewicz'.

    The wording is very specific and it is my view that if TLF employ such a rigid statement they might be limiting the potential interest in Lenkiewicz. Sociological and philosophical enquiry is a closed door for many and to be honest I doubt many of those who might otherwise be interested in supporting the foundation based on Robert's more familiar work, personality or views would have a clue what it means or the will to look it up.It really does feel that the foundation already has a firm idea of where it wants to be but seems to be containing itself in the process. That said, it's a real pity that more people haven't contributed to this topic of discussion. I can't help thinking that an in person forum might have been more productive.

    #10618

    TLF
    Participant

    I'd also add that of course Robert described his own activities as 'sociological and philosophical enquiry by visual means'.

    #10619

    TheWolfman
    Participant

    I'd also add that of course Robert described his own activities as 'sociological and philosophical enquiry by visual means'.

    As Lord St German's once said, 'we immediately recognised one another for what we were - mutual scam artists, hustlers, frauds. We instantly recognised it in one another.'Now I am not saying that Robert was a fraud, far from it but I am saying that he was obviously different things to different people, his life compartmentalised and often theatrical. It seems fair to say that people gravitated toward Robert in such large numbers due largely to the fantastic output of paintings and charismatic and larger than life personality with everything else almost superfluous - or the icing on the cake if you prefer. Robert is said to have often used psychology to help people feel at ease in his presence and exert influence. Mirroring body movements, speaking in hushed tones to draw listeners closer. Of course he also had a great sense of humour and what would appear to be a love of the theatrical.

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