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  • #10665

    gbl
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    ...(There are no perfect breasts, just the ones you prefer)............Can this be advanced through education, yes of course. How would you know if you succeeded? The cash tills will ring,....

    The Sun newspaper has already been doing this for years! It displays the different breasts each day, on a pull-out chart if you like, then the appreciative audience decide what tits (sorry, breasts) they like. They then return to the chart (The Sun) to look at a new picture the following day, and repeat this on a daily basis, like an 'addiction'. Thus they then become fully 'aesthetically satisfied', and show all the traits of addictive behaviour.

    #10666

    WEB WEAVER
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    The cash tills will ring, and people like Krauser would realise and gain please from enlightened understanding.

    I really wouldn't. I already understand I just chose not to engage with the work beyond the visual - much to the chagrin of many it seems. Doesn't prevent me from investing time with the work or spending money and perhaps most importantly it doesn't stop me from enjoying the work.

    #10667

    Annie HillSmith
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    Re Addiction … & Frank's post.

    #10668

    TheWolfman
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    The cash tills will ring, and people like Krauser would realise and gain please from enlightened understanding.

    I really wouldn't. I already understand I just chose not to engage with the work beyond the visual - much to the chagrin of many it seems. Doesn't prevent me from investing time with the work or spending money and perhaps most importantly it doesn't stop me from enjoying the work.

    #10669

    gbl
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    Annie; it's all very nice of you to write posts sharing all your memories about Robert, complete with dates included! But I can't really see what you are saying in your last post, or what you are driving at, apart from until you get to this bit:

    I suppose I think that the contemplation of the ideas ... at whatever level ... and the research into them will provoke thought....

    ...Well what's so significant about this? You can contemplate just about anything really - and it would also be educational! You could even just take a 'single word' and then say "discuss". So what are we saying here? You then mention 'paper crowns', and say you don't understand it - well, so what? what's the relevance? As I want to be rude (to you or any member), I think your post is just 'general waffle', sorry!

    #10670

    marlowe
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    Annie; it's all very nice of you to write posts sharing all your memories about Robert, complete with dates included! But I can't really see what you are saying in your last post, ...........As I want to be rude (to you or any member), I think your post is just 'general waffle', sorry!

    #10671

    Frank
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    Another interesting and highly relevant post from Annie I think.If you look at the objects of some charities that were set up posthumously they can be fairly narrow in remit, but a charitable trust established in the lifetime of the artist really is a request to continue something in their absence. They shape it in their lifetime. The more you consider it the more I think the choice for the trustees is either accept your charge or resign. After all, there’s nothing stopping them forming a Lenkiewicz art appreciation society as a separate entity, hey they could even take our two resident fools gbl and marlowe as first members.

    #10672

    gbl
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    there’s nothing stopping them forming a Lenkiewicz art appreciation society as a separate entity, hey they could even take our two resident fools gbl and marlowe as first members.

    Yes, good point - because what sort of 'fools' would appreciate lenkiewicz's art?

    #10673

    dutchmaster2
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    What is the point of trying to promote Robert's work to a wider audience if some basic issues aren't addressed:1) The TLF website only has about 8 images on it - is this a copyright infringement issue?2) There are hardly any major works being displayed in national or regional galleries!3) Although Plymouth played a major part in Robert's life, it means absolutely nothing to the wider audience to be honest, the fixation with housing Robert's works/manuscripts in Plymouth is a blinkered approach. I used to live in Munich which has wonderful art galleries and museums, if the British galleries won't take notice then try abroad. Promote Robert's work elsewhere! PS have you ever tried to get to Plymouth!4) Get an art historian such as Graham-Dixon or Marlowe to present an hour long programme for Channel 4 et al. Surely there is enough material (Art)/scandal (Diogenes corpse)/intrigue (Lovers)/affection (contemporaries) which would contribute to a very interesting and informative programme.5) More exhibitions, OK Bristol in the wake of Banksy may be interesting, the Ben Uri exhibition received a lot of coverage as well....promote promote promote.6) Lastly, robert's ideas. There should be enough material to allow direct quotes from Robert himself instead of interpretations by the TLF and us lot, to try and encapsulate Robert's thoughts and feelings. Ironically van Gogh's life story is referred to, as much through as his letters to his brother Theo as through his art.Robert's legacy of his notes lends itelf to the same sort of interpretation.Robert left a legacy of written work which should be tapped and quoted from, then there is no risk of misunderstanding the issues he wished to pursue through his enquiries.I think that you are all making this too complicated and attacking the TLF for something beyond its control, which to be fair the TLF had it's hands tied for so long. How could it hope to promote Robert's work when they didn't know the exact amount of physical assets which the executor was leaving to them. An impossible job. Give them time to work out a strategy with the assets which they have left and to attain any loan works for future promotion.Enjoy your day 🙂

    #10674

    Annie HillSmith
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    Well said ... DM

    #10675

    TLF
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    DM raises some interesting factual questions which I'm happy to answer before member 555 closes the thread.1. As I said, this is TLF's website for information on the charity and its activities. The copyright of images belongs to the charity and can only be used by others with permission. The images on the site are mainly works which belong to TLF, so not many. There will be another website of Robert's work but this is a complex and expensive task. For the time being we're happy for this website to fill the gap, especially as we were instrumental in setting it up with Dave Goodwin.2. No, it's not for want of trying. They aren't interested in Robert as it stands. It's TLF's big job to change that over time.3.

    promote Robert elsewhere

    Again it's not for want of trying (hence the RWA) but museums/galleries either don't know Robert or are very sceptical. We (and the BU) tried to take the Ben Uri show abroad but there were no takers. I even took informational material personally to one Eurpoean venue - no response.4. Again we have tried but they're not interested/too busy.5.

    promote promote promote

    Yes but it takes money. And staff (who want paying). At the moment we are all voluntary trustees. Thanks to member 555 for giving the platform to the discussion. See you all in Bristol.

    #10676

    TheWolfman
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    5.

    promote promote promote

    Yes but it takes money. And staff (who want paying). At the moment we are all voluntary trustees.

    What happened to the post that was advertised last year - something along the lines of a gallery and exhibitions officer?

    #10677

    WEB WEAVER
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    For the sake of clarity I will add that all my purchases have been on books, each of them money well spent.

    Not the beginings of Bibliomania I hope? :-* Actually, I have the same approach to Peter Howson.

    #10678

    gbl
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    What are the possibilities of exhibiting Diogenes's body at the RWA (I imagine it would be a minefield of bureaucratic obstacles!)? Although you [TLF] may be bored of fielding questions about the body, it would be a boon if could be exhibited there, especially if it was alongside a 'death' exhibition theme. But instead of describing his body as that of a "tramp", find out what one of Diogenes's past careers or jobs were (if he had any!), and describe it as the body of a former, say, 'soldier' (if he ever served), or whatever job title he once had.It would also generate publicity, and would help solve some of the dilemas you quote (below), as it would get the attention of those galleries who are otherwise not interested or aware. It could do half the work of employing a bod to relentlessly canvas/write/phone galleries to get the results which you are not currently getting. It worked for Robert - got him loads of publicity in the 1980's!

    2. No, it's not for want of trying. They aren't interested in Robert as it stands. It's TLF's big job to change that over time.3.

    promote Robert elsewhere

    Again it's not for want of trying (hence the RWA) but museums/galleries either don't know Robert or are very sceptical. We (and the BU) tried to take the Ben Uri show abroad but there were no takers. 4. Again we have tried but they're not interested/too busy.5.

    promote promote promote

    Yes but it takes money. And staff (who want paying). At the moment we are all voluntary trustees.

    #10679

    marlowe
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    What happened to the post that was advertised last year - something along the lines of a gallery and exhibitions officer?

    Pay attention Krauser, that's what that brain is for. 🙂 Does this ring any bells?

    TLF advertised late last year for a gallery manager/exhibitions officer, short-listing four candidates but because of the delay in being able to appoint, the personal circumstances of our chosen candidate altered at the last moment and no appointment has yet been made. We intend to re-advertise in the near future.

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